April 7, 2026

When Institutions Fail Who Still Holds The Line - w/ Gregory Henry

The Epstein files force a question most of the country keeps dodging: if crimes were committed and victims have spoken, why does accountability move like it’s trapped in slow motion. We sit with that discomfort and follow it where it leads, including the unpopular idea that the people with the most to lose may exist on every side of the political aisle and far beyond politics. When power is the common language, silence becomes a strategy, and the public is left arguing while nothing changes.

From there, we widen the lens to the systems that make cover-ups easier: weakened oversight, ethics rules with no teeth, suspicious government contracts, and financial markets that react to “news” like somebody already knew the outcome. We also talk about how faith shapes our read on what’s happening, why spiritual blindness can look like political confusion, and why some stories feel bigger than scandal and closer to a battle over values, truth, and control.

We close with the reality of war and service. We talk moral lines in the military, the danger of leaders who can’t explain the why, the Strait of Hormuz and real-world ripple effects, and the mental cost veterans carry long after the uniform comes off. If any of this hits home, listen, share it with someone who needs the conversation, and leave a review so more people can find the show.

Books Mentioned:

https://www.amazon.com/I-Love-My-Big-Brother/dp/177755750X

https://shorturl.at/gN0Sy

00:00 - Welcome Back And Current Events

00:41 - Epstein Files And Shared Culpability

05:25 - Power Faith And Dark Incentives

14:52 - War Timing And Media Blind Spots

16:15 - Contracts Ethics And Market Manipulation

27:35 - Reforms To Fix Broken Government

30:05 - Military Service And Moral Red Lines

42:50 - The Combat Mindset Gap Today

50:25 - Strait Of Hormuz And Real Costs

54:15 - PTSD The Price Of Unclear Wars

01:01:45 - Zero Trust And Knowing The Enemy

01:06:35 - Books Legacy And Next Conversation

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Brother Greg, welcome back, my brother.

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Welcome back.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for having me.

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Dr.

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Dennis Rose.

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Oh.

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I had to I was waiting to say that.

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I was waiting to say that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I appreciate that, man.

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I appreciate it.

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Well earned.

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Hey, man.

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It was rough.

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It was rough.

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But uh, yeah, I'm glad I'm past that now.

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So thank you again, man, for um sitting down with me uh yet again.

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And um, I want to get right into some of these current events that we have going on.

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Roger that as a whole bunch.

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Um, so if you had to take your pick, where would you start?

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Epstein.

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Let's start right there.

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Epstein, let's start right there.

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Let's start right there.

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All right.

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Uh well, um, I I believe that both political parties have culpability in this.

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And what I'm saying is there was times when somebody from one party or the other could have done something leading up to this point.

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Um when I look at this fiasco that has occurred, number one, I let's start where where does a 13 to 17-year-old child be put into this environment?

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How does that happen?

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So let's start there.

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How does a 13 to 17-year-old child, especially a female child, I know how how I was with my boys and how stringent we were.

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How does a 13 to 17-year-old girl be put into this situation where these men have access to them like that?

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So that's number one.

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That's a that's a question.

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I've I've had I've been in discussion with people and I've asked uh how does a 13 to 17-year-old young lady be put into a situation where these uh middle-aged, older men have access to them in that way.

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That's number one.

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Number two, we know that crimes were committed.

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I I don't think anyone will argue that fact.

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Whether you're Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, whatever, right, would all agree that crimes were committed.

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If crimes because crimes were committed, then why hasn't there been movement toward convictions and punishment?

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Okay.

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Good question.

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What do you think?

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Um I'll get back to that.

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The third thing is we have the victims.

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Have said such and such did this to me.

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Again, why hasn't this been approached or handled?

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You ask me what I think.

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I think it's people of power that it involves.

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We saw that Prince Andrew was one of the individuals that was brought forth.

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The British family uh took his title and I guess put him to the side.

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And now I I think he's probably faced another uh charges when it comes to this.

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Um you have people in positions of power, I I think I think it's Ephesians 6 talks about this.

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We wrestling out against the flesh, but um principalities, principalities and governments, and I'm paraphrasing.

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Yeah, yeah, I got you.

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Uh I think there's a lot of powerful people that this is affecting, that there's not gonna be any movement on it on either side, because I think there's people on both sides that's involved in this.

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And um being in the military, you know the deal.

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Uh I I I I am no saint, but I will say this there is no young lady, woman from my past that can ever come and say, I did something to her that was inappropriate, and there will be no person from that time that was underaged.

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Right, let me stress that was underaged that can come and say that I did anything inappropriate.

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So uh you know it's okay.

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Let me throw this in there.

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Uh since you you did mention the the scripture.

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Yeah.

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Along those lines, um if we are going to uh fully embrace that scripture and understand that this is not flesh and blood that we're dealing with.

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Okay.

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Um then we just you know, I'm not a conspi conspiracy theorist.

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Okay.

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However, I'm a believer.

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Yes.

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And when I put two and two together and look at some of the things that have been, you know, public knowledge in terms of what has happened at some of these things, some of these events on on the island.

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Um I have to believe that many of the things that took place weren't simply about uh some pleasure.

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Right, many of the things that took place have the characteristics of requirements uh from those who are separated from from God, from Jesus.

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And when you look back, you know, biblically, you see the sacrifices, you see all of the I'll just put it out there, some of the nasty things that was happening, you know, way back when.

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And if you bring that forward, where we a lot of times ask the question in today's world, how could this happen?

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Why would people do that?

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Well, what if they don't believe like we believe?

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And what if their belief is in someone else?

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And that someone else requires that.

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And you know, if that requirement is one that's in place that says you are required to do this if you if you want to keep that power that you talked about a minute ago.

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Yeah.

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So of course the court system is not going to recognize that.

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You know, it just and and maybe that's why when you mention people on both sides who were um turning a blind eye, if you will, it could be that you know, of course I can't say anything, I don't have proof, but when all else fails and and uh it's hard to find explanations, it's easy to do one of two things.

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Either just say, oh, they just nasty, or it might be a requirement.

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And if you want to get dip deeper into the requirement, then pick up the good book.

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There's a lot in there.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, I'm such saying it's a possibility that we we're we overlook, and because society doesn't lean to a Christian belief first, it gets overlooked.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah.

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So we will see what time will do with this situation.

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I I don't believe it's going away.

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I think there's this is one time where you could have a lot of other distractions and things occurring, but I don't believe that this one is gonna go away.

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Uh so it's gonna be here.

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It's either someone, some people will have to take the fall, but I I don't believe that this is going away.

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I agree.

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I agree, and I think the only the only reason why it's not going away is because there are enough unpowerful people raising noise about it to where it can't go away.

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Because, like you said, uh people on both sides of the aisle have allowed it to continue, and people on both sides of the aisle, quite frankly, are in positions of power beyond just the political stuff we see.

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That's right.

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You know, uh yeah, I don't I don't think uh a lot of people once they taste power, they don't want to relinquish it once they get that taste.

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You say that.

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You can say that again.

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Yeah, I think when when some folks get to the a certain level and they see what that level can bring them, they cannot walk away.

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Uh, I think that the brother uh Dave Chappelle was one person who did walk away.

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And he would not acquiesce to some of the things that were being required of him, and he walked away.

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He went to Africa, figure that.

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Figure that to find peace, to find grounding, to find himself.

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So you know, every time when you say that, the the the image that popped into my head was like every time I see uh someone in a an elected official, let's just say, uh get interviewed and spin and justify some of this foolishness.

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And I'm looking like now I understand having a difference of opinion.

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Don't get me wrong.

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We can have a difference of opinion.

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Of course.

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But some things are just so blatantly obvious.

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I'm like, come on, man.

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Yeah, yeah, it's are you serious right now?

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Are you you really I I don't believe that you believe what you're saying?

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Yeah.

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And I think some folks are under the belief if I say it enough, it'll become truth.

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Well, I'm not that guy that's going to fall under the auspices of that statement.

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Um I'm gonna look at you, and you're always gonna be that person who did whatever, no matter what anyone else says.

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If I've always been like this: if I've experienced something in my life or seen it with my own two eyes, you're not gonna make me believe different no matter how much you you try to uh spin it.

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Uh for instance, when I was afforded the opportunity to go to Egypt back in the 90s and see the pyramids for the first time, and go inside the Egyptian museums and see the artifacts, then there's certain things you can say right now, and you're not gonna sway my mind one way or the other.

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One way or the other, you're not gonna sway my mind.

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Because I I I I've seen it for myself, I've experienced it for myself.

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I wish, you know, my wife and I have talked about that.

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That is that's on the bucket list.

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I've never got the opportunity to uh the closest I got to Egypt was it was a stop on the way to the desert.

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You know, it was the plane stopped, we had to get off, we got back on.

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Yeah.

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Right on the Saudi.

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We, you know.

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Yeah, I don't know why we stopped.

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Yeah, I think everyone should have uh opportunity to get that experience.

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I really should I I want to have the experience again because the time we spent in the Egyptian Museum, it was ours, and I think that alone may need a day, day and a half by itself.

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Uh yeah, by itself.

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So I I think that's something we all could could learn something from.

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But the Epstein files, it's not going away.

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I I think the noise is gonna be continue to be made, and there's gonna be some folks who are gonna have to take the vowel for it.

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Well, you know, one thing I don't understand in terms of why no one's questioning this, but a few.

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There's a there's a few out there when it comes to the Epstein Files, I don't hear mainstream media making the connection between the files and this war.

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The timing was, I'll just say, extremely curious.

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Yeah.

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You know, I mean, if I recall correctly, the very week that this thing jumped off, there were new allegations or new revelations that came out of the files.

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And I believe, I don't want to misspeak, but I thought that there was a specific allegation from someone who was underaged at the time against the president that same week.

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I was like, ooh, that's the first time I've actually heard that.

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Yeah, and the next thing I know, we we attack it.

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I'm like, hmm.

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That was curious.

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I heard uh oh Bannon, he's a Republican guy.

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I I heard him say this, he says, if there's a change in the government, he said, we're all going to jail.

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I heard that.

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Did you hear that too?

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Yeah, yeah, I did.

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He said, because I'm seeing things that are are done, say for instance, every year, and and I'm sure you might have to do this too, there's a series of training that you have to take.

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There's privacy and security training, there's government ethics, there's the no fear act, there's EEO.

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There's a series of training that every government employee has to take.

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And let me hit on the government ethics part.

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When and I and I saw this, and I was very cautious of people trying to tempt you with things when they're trying to get government contracts.

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Um I'm not saying it occurred directly to me, but people started tapping close to that line, and I immediately shut it off to let them know I'm not the guy, you better try somebody else.

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Because I there's no way you put me in in striped clothing or orange clothing uh for pennies on a dollar.

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No, not happening.

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I'm not that guy.

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But we all go through these types of training, and I'm seeing things, and I'll just list one.

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I wrote it down.

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A company was given a$143 million contract.

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One of the subs was connected to Christy Gnome.

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Now, this company at the time didn't have a headquarters, didn't even have a website, and was incorporated eight days before the contract award.

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Curious.

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And that information I heard from Representative Nagus from Colorado's 2nd uh congressional district, very sharp brother.

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And there was a similar contract done, I think, when Hurricane Maria came through.

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There was, I think it was a 345, 340 million dollar contract that was awarded now that was pulled back after it came out.

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That I think it was like two employees to the company and it just got you know created.

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But stuff like that, and that was just one example I gave.

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There, there's uh many others.

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Um because I I noticed something, and even uh my brother-in-law, we were talking about this.

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When the president started saying things about the markets, and we were watching, you would see the market be up, and then it'll be uh tremendous drop.

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So I got hip to it.

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So I went what I did, I went on to my TSP and I looked at you know the different funds and what was being affected, and I put some on the government securities, but then I put a whole bunch, I think, in the iFund.

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And I was like, oh, and after that, everything went up.

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So I kept watching that, and um I've gotten more and more in trading, and a lot of us we don't do that, we don't watch the market because we weren't taught this.

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But it seems like when something was said, and you went and looked at the market, you saw if you looked at some of the bigger uh stocks, NVIDIA, Palantir, anything AI, if you looked at certain things that were said, you saw uh uh maybe a dip in the market previously, and then when something was said, all of a sudden it shot up, and you would have you would have saw that there was a lot of action on certain stocks the day before before they went right up.

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And there's yeah, go ahead.

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No, I was just gonna say that that market manipulation.

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Yeah.

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Um we know that it's it's been going on for decades, right?

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Yeah.

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Um but man is so blatant with it.

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Right.

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You know, it it's but the crypto with uh amongst a slew of other things.

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Right.

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You know, it's it's so blatant.

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And you know, the now the big thing is the uh what do they call the predictive uh where where the betting, I don't forget what the name of that stuff is, where people making placing bets on world events and they curiously placed a big bet on the attack on Iran, like hours.

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Was it even hours?

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Was it like within the hour?

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And somebody came up big and like how?

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How do you know that that's gonna happen?

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And so everybody, you know, it's I guess it's all about what you can prove, but after a while you're like, come on, man, you know, yeah, we know, we know what you're doing.

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Yeah, I I think it's not I I I believe well let me let me set start say this statement one thing I think Trump has done correctly, and stay with me, he's exposed, he has exposed the inadequacy and workings of our government.

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He's exposed.

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That because and and the reason why I say uh you in the past you would see things from the judicial branch that would make sense that would move accordingly, you would see things from the legislative branch that would not let things happen.

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Um I have seen some things that's occurring and still occurring that um, for instance, I'll give you an example.

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I I still know that there are still people on administrative leave still getting paid since February of last year.

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There are people still in the government that have been put on administrative leave that are still getting paid.

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There are people who have lawsuits going, and I believe that they will take time, but eventually I think those people will win those lawsuits.

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That's my opinion.

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I I believe those people will win those lawsuits.

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Well, you know, in terms of exposure, I take it a step further.

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Yes, he has exposed the cracks in you know our our government.

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However, well, not even however, in addition to I think that he has exposed people's hidden ideologies where they feel emboldened to come out and say what they really feel.

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Yeah.

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And I'll tell you, when I what was it, uh when you when you two years ago, when they started to expose the ideologies of these Supreme Court justices, yeah, I was like, come on, man, you know, that's that's the one place you're supposed to be above all this foolishness.

00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:15.680
And humans are humans.

00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.720
Oh, yeah, yeah, I get it.

00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:44.400
But to have a Supreme Court justice to be found, or to have been found, you know, in the back pocket of a billionaire with all these gifts and whatnot, another one to have been found flying the flags of you know, these white nationalists don't like, and then he blames his wife, you know, like so.

00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:58.079
But when I saw that, I'm like, okay, these cats are at the highest level in the highest court making these decisions, and they have these hidden ideologies.

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:19.279
And you know, even then, it you know, that for me, I might have been late to the game, but when I started to look around and saw, oh, oh, you got all these enablers in Congress.

00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:19.839
Yes.

00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:28.319
Like they were strategically placed that normally would be to stop, you know, the the guardrails.

00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:30.960
They're just enablers now.

00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:31.519
Yeah right?

00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:32.319
Guardrails.

00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:34.160
Right.

00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:47.440
And and I think, you know, I think that the founding fathers of the country assumed, you know, there was such a thing called a gentleman back in the day.

00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:48.160
Yes.

00:25:48.400 --> 00:26:00.960
And these gentlemen would do the gentlemanly thing when it came time to, regardless of party affiliation, regardless of, you know, personal beliefs, they would do the right thing.

00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:02.799
I think that that's what they banked on.

00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:08.559
And the exposure is now that money talks.

00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:09.920
Yes.

00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:24.480
And don't forget that requirement that comes with certain power that leads to things like the Epstein files.

00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.000
Let's just say that.

00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:37.039
So those of us who are not there have an uphill battle and it's rough.

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:37.839
Yeah.

00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.160
I don't well, I it's not a thing.

00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:41.440
I know I wouldn't be there.

00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:58.079
Uh uh there are certain industries that I don't believe that I would flow into because I'll put hands on somebody or it it would be because I still put it.

00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:00.799
You're gonna put hands on somebody.

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.200
Uh the gentlemanly thing, man.

00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.680
Yeah, gentlemen thing can knock you out.

00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.559
Yeah, I still I still stay in the gym and I still throw these hands, you know.

00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.279
I can't get the DMV out of me.

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.559
You know, you can take me out the DMV, but you know, DMV is still there.

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:17.279
Right off.

00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:23.440
You know how we grew up, you know how we grow up, whether it's stop boxing or going to the body, you know what it is.

00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:25.039
You know, I still box.

00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:32.400
Yeah, but uh it's uh there's a lot of things that that's gonna occur, man.

00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:38.559
Uh I I I came across this video and I saw this guy, and there's some things that I agree with because I've been saying this.

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:50.000
I think number one, there needs to be limits on your your time and service for the legislative branch and for the judicial branch.

00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.640
Uh I think there should be time limits.

00:27:52.799 --> 00:28:03.759
I f I believe also, uh, I think it was I forgot how many years ago that the Supreme Court voted that a corporation was a person.

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:09.200
So therefore, you can contribute all this money to these candidates.

00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.240
That's where the PACs come from, the super PACs and all that.

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.839
I think we need to get rid of that.

00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.920
And it should be brought back into the people's uh hands.

00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:28.240
That'll force candidates to really have to hit the ground and meet the people and express what you're trying to do and your views and hear their views.

00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:31.039
I think that needs to be brought back.

00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:41.039
I believe there should be some type of committee created on ethics to oversee the judges of the Supreme Court.

00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:52.480
And I also believe that the Inspector General departments of all agencies have been hamstrung.

00:28:54.000 --> 00:29:06.240
And I believe they should somehow, some way should be uh a separate entity where the executive branch has no parity over them.

00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:17.359
Um there's a lot of things from what I've just sat back and just seen have occurred over the last year that needs to be fixed.

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:31.680
I uh if there is a change in parties as far as who's over the legislative branch, I think first order of business is to break a broken government.

00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:40.400
I mean, do what you need to do to keep everything flowing from Medicare, Medicaid, uh snaps, benefits, whatever.

00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:50.799
But first order of business, they need to fix the government so that something like this does not ever occur again.

00:29:50.960 --> 00:30:02.559
That should be the first order of business because it's just been over a year, and there's a lot, a lot of things that have been broken and and will need to be corrected.

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:09.440
Well, so what about the military?

00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:10.160
Right?

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.160
So In what aspect?

00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:14.559
Okay, two two aspects.

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.880
One, we see the dismantling from above, right?

00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:27.680
The top generals being let go, those who uh have a backbone being let go.

00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:48.880
So that's one aspect, but then the other, like if you had the opportunity, seeing what's happening right now with the war that's going on, um if you could say one thing to young people thinking about joining today, like what would you say to them?

00:30:52.799 --> 00:31:21.680
I would say if you're not willing to stand on your morals when given direction that is immoral and outside of regulation, that's very key, outside of regulation and immoral, if you're not willing to stand on your laurels, don't join.

00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.880
Um join.

00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:44.000
Because you go in there and with what's going on now, if you do stand on your morals, there's a good chance you might get a dishonorable discharge, and you know what that could do to a career.

00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:50.640
That that's like a a scarlet letter on you going forward.

00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:58.640
While you know, the honorable discharge like you and I have, it can be uh very helpful for you.

00:31:58.799 --> 00:31:59.359
Right.

00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:18.960
So I I I think I would say think very clearly because you may be asked to do something that you do not agree with morally, and uh it might just be way outside of operational regulations.

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:27.920
So the so the young people who may get put in harm's way.

00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:28.960
Yeah.

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.279
Um me and someone else, my previous guest, were discussing this.

00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:39.200
He's a former first sergeant, and I asked him the question.

00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.759
Well, made the statement and asked the question.

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:59.759
It's like statement being these young people who may get put in harm's way would be going up against individuals who, unlike them, are not concerned with coming home.

00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:11.359
Like when we join and people get shipped off, our culture is such that the families all gather around and we talk about what we're gonna do when you come back home.

00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:12.240
Yeah.

00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:19.200
But you're going against an adversary who is not concerned at all about coming back home.

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.400
Because they are home, you're fighting on their soil.

00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:31.359
Well, not only that, but their willingness to die for what they believe in.

00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:32.240
Yes.

00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:41.759
Whereas a lot of our young people go in for college benefits and things of that nature.

00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:42.240
Yeah.

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:47.279
Uh enlistment bonuses and such.

00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:50.160
So I asked them, man, what do you what do you say?

00:33:50.400 --> 00:34:01.599
Like, how do you question is is it your job to prepare them mentally to go against an adversary who has a different mindset than you?

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.960
And that was a difficult question, you know.

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.680
And so I asked you the same thing.

00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:16.639
If you had the opportunity to sit down with somebody across the table, and you know what they're going up against, they don't.

00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:17.519
Yeah.

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:20.000
How do you break that down?

00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:28.719
I I remember maybe two years ago, I was possibly urging a nephew of mine to join the military.

00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:29.920
Okay.

00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:43.199
Because I I I feel that it afforded you a lot of opportunities and skill sets that you didn't have to pay for, as well as the benefits that it offered.

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:56.320
And I I think if you're an individual and you do not have any direction, you don't know what you want to do, I think the military is a good stepping stone for that.

00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:04.079
And it doesn't mean you have to do the whole thing, you're gonna be, you have to be in the dirt or whatever.

00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:19.920
There's a plethora of jobs you can do in a support role that gets you these benefits and gives you opportunities to maybe travel and experience different things.

00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.719
And I've always thought that about the military.

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:45.039
Uh, for an individual who may not have the direction like I didn't, or I didn't sit down with the guidance counselor, I didn't have anyone uh saying, you know, you gotta pass this SAT score or this ATC ACT score, and you know, keep your grade point average so you could get into this college.

00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:59.360
That wasn't on my radar, but the military served as an avenue for me to where I was able to parlay that into a a good career and uh giving me the ability to support my family.

00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.679
But now, talk to me about now.

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:06.960
Two years later.

00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:28.000
When you have top generals, highly decorated generals, admirals, colonels, senior NCOs, senior officers who are not on the buy-in, who are stepping away.

00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:33.440
And these are people when you I I've looked at a lot of these people looking at their resume.

00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:39.360
These aren't some Rudy Poop ate up individuals.

00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:48.159
These are some very sharp people, some coming from West Point, some coming from the Naval Academy, some coming from the Air Force Academy.

00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:59.119
A lot of these folks are very sharp, and when they are stepping away because of what's going on, that should tell everyone something.

00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:08.800
That should tell now, granted, they're supposed to be that's supposed to be political when you're in the military.

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.960
But we all know you could always tell what side certain individuals sway to.

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.039
You and I, we could tell about it.

00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:18.480
Yeah, we could always tell.

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:38.880
But by the same token, at least there was some type of, okay, yeah, I might not believe what you you believe, but there's a certain code of conduct and standard that's set that even though we might be on a different political venue, we're gonna be like, we're gonna hold to this.

00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:40.800
We're gonna hold to this.

00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:45.760
And I don't see holding to this, whatever that is, that's standard.

00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:47.920
It's fraction.

00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:50.719
It is fraction.

00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:56.079
So uh you know I thought I I thought I knew the answer.

00:37:56.239 --> 00:38:00.079
I thought I knew what I what I would say to a young person.

00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:05.679
And right now, I I gotta be honest with you, I I don't anymore.

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:06.159
Yeah.

00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:21.840
Because there's layers to this now where, you know, one I stand firm on my faith.

00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:25.440
That's one aspect of it.

00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:48.719
The other aspect of it is when a young person goes in, it was a time where you could at least have confidence in the top levels of our military to do the best they could to take care of those lower enlisted people.

00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:49.599
Yes.

00:38:51.440 --> 00:39:01.039
And when I see those individuals getting taken away and being replaced by, look, DEI replacements, right?

00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:10.719
I mean, getting replaced by lesser qualified individuals, um, lesser experienced individuals.

00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:16.239
I I get concerned about the lower enlisted.

00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:38.559
And so I think the the exclamation point for me was the very first casualties, the first six that lost their lives in this war that wasn't even necessary and still can't be explained.

00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.239
That changed things for me.

00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.400
That's another aspect.

00:39:45.519 --> 00:40:22.079
But then I guess, you know, I think about my sons, and obviously, you know, it it's like the military needs soldiers, airmen, marines, what have you, sailors, what have you, to you want people at the gate that are willing to do what they need to do to keep us safe.

00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:40.559
And it would be unfair hypocritical to say, okay, son, no, you stay home or you do the you go the safe route and let somebody else's kid do that.

00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:47.679
You don't, you know, that that that's that's not that's not the right thing to do.

00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:58.000
Um the right thing to do in my mind is to say, here's the possibilities of what could happen, and we're gonna have faith.

00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:13.519
Not only am I gonna have faith in the most high, but I'm confident in those above you, at all levels above you, that they're well trained, they know how to handle things.

00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:20.960
Well, now that we've eroded that top level, I I can't I can't say that anymore.

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:25.840
You know, and so I don't know what to say right now.

00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.480
Like I don't, I honestly don't know.

00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:41.440
Yes, I have faith in the most high, obviously I do, but um, we're dealing with, like you said, some forces that are not flesh and blood right now.

00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.119
And spiritual wickedness, yeah, yeah.

00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:58.400
And I'm like, I'm like, and it's impacting the top levels, and uh I honestly don't know how I would answer that.

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.079
I don't know what I would say.

00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.000
Luckily, my kids are, you know, we're beyond that now.

00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:15.920
But for a younger person, I'm like, man, uh this is this is um, we still need people at the gate, right?

00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:17.039
We still need them there.

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:18.400
Yeah, we do.

00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.280
So so if you're gonna be there, I need you to have the right mindset.

00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.119
That's that's all I can do.

00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:32.960
Yeah, well, there's an ultimatum if uh certain things don't occur by, I believe, noon tomorrow.

00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:34.639
Oh, eight o'clock tonight, I think.

00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:41.440
Oh, is it is that okay, but by noon tomorrow, you're gonna find out.

00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.800
Well, no, we'll see.

00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:53.679
Um, I think there's a uh a few countries that have never been um conquered.

00:42:54.079 --> 00:43:01.840
I think Afghanistan is one, Ethiopia is one, and I think Iran is another.

00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.519
The territory, the people.

00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.199
Um like let me let me let's let me explain it this way.

00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:18.719
A friend of mine, he was swapped for uh PG County.

00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:36.800
Okay, so they were going through to clear this house and got in there, found suspects, you know, and somehow, someway, one of the suspects got in a tussle with one of the SWAT guys.

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:49.599
And he got in a a few of them on this guy, and the guy, my friend was telling me, this is my friend's telling me, uh, he was just cowering.

00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:55.519
And I guess he was telling me while they were doing the debrief, he's like, What happened in there?

00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:57.039
What's going on?

00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:58.960
Uh why aren't you fighting back?

00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.320
And basically, the guy had never been in a fight.

00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:14.719
Now, you and I growing up, DC, PG County, people, Compton, all your projects in New Orleans.

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.960
People from certain areas, we grew up, we got in fights.

00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:25.920
Even if somebody pushed you on your bike, this one of your questions you asked, you've never been pushed off your bike and had to, you know, defend yourself?

00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.119
He's like, nah.

00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:51.360
So I say all this to say, unless you are special ops, 30 to 75th Ranger Battalion, guys who are constantly in it in the mix, you get regular military in there who've never really gotten to a fight.

00:44:51.599 --> 00:45:05.679
And you throw them in with these people who, by history, have been fighting, just asked the Russians in Afghanistan, going back to the 80s, and what happened with them.

00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:14.320
You get people who are who grew up fighting, you're gonna have a problem.

00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:17.039
A real problem.

00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:23.199
Now we obviously we have the equipment, we have the bombs, we have the drones, autonomous drones.

00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:28.559
Uh but there's a point where you gotta get face to face.

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:44.480
And once you get face to face, everybody ain't grew up in the DMV or in Baltimore or in Compton or Watts or New Orleans, Houston.

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:54.000
I could go on and on in that type of, you know, you had to have some diddy bop about yourself, some get up and go about yourself.

00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:56.320
Everybody didn't grow up like that.

00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:11.039
Regardless of whether you're carrying a M4 or a Saw or whatever the new variant that they're using right now, you know, there's gonna be a point where you you're gonna have to get gritty.

00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:19.679
You know, what's funny is as you were talking, you're saying words and memories are popping into my head, right?

00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:39.360
No, but I think one of the most important things you you're saying there is like for us, and and it's funny, throwing hands, right, was done as recreation.

00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.719
It wasn't it didn't even have to be enemies, right?

00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:51.360
A lot of times you'll get out there and and throw hands and it and it wasn't and and and here's the thing, I used to hate that.

00:46:52.000 --> 00:47:00.800
Like, I didn't like that, but somebody always wanted to throw hands with you, and it's not a we're not enemies, it's just a thing to do.

00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:08.800
Yeah, you know, so when you grow up in that environment, like if if if any of the cats I grew up with are listening to this right now, they know what I'm talking about.

00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:23.920
Yeah, they know, you know, the Rose wasn't wanting to be out here, you know, like I wasn't that dude, but it's like you causing me to throw hands on the regular, and I don't want to, but after a while, it just became it's a norm.

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:24.960
What we doing?

00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:26.320
Like, who what we doing today?

00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:38.960
Like who yeah, you know, like and and it, you know, I was a late bloomer, so it took a minute for me to understand that all these cats around me, they're jockeying for position.

00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:40.400

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